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Post by Macca on Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:44 am

Okay.

I have completed my statistical analysis for 2010.
I have only 105 players that interest me...after that it is time to get out the dart board and lucky dip.

The 105 includes players who haven't played a game.
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Re: Club 105

Post by Jason on Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:57 am

Clearly im behind the eight ball since im nowhere near finishing my list. Embarassed

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Re: Club 105

Post by Macca on Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:14 am

Surely you'd just be 'interpreting/analysing/categorising' the numbers now JW?
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Re: Club 105

Post by croz on Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:24 am

I havent started yet! This new job is ruining my FF GF hopes.

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Time to set a relief

Post by Milnee on Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:39 am

Get your priorities right man set a relief!!! Where is the Croz of olde!!!!! Juat make sure its not me doing your Year 8 Music class!
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Post by croz on Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:10 am

I have Yr 8 Music lesson 1 & 2 Monday.

Thanks, Milnos! Wink

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Re: Club 105

Post by Megabonus on Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:25 am

holy shittttte......im in the process of discovering the power of of 'excel'. man, what i can do with SANFL, VFL, TAC, SA U18 and national championship stats I love you

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Post by Hero on Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:07 am

Pez you can give them to me.
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Post by croz on Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:03 am

You just worry about getting your player list to me, young man.

One thing at a time

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Post by Hero on Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:37 am

okay croz
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Post by gerry on Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:40 pm

Megabonus wrote:holy shittttte......im in the process of discovering the power of of 'excel'. man, what i can do with SANFL, VFL, TAC, SA U18 and national championship stats I love you

Ok, I'll take the bait.
Where did you get these stats?
They weren't rectally extracted were they?

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Re: Club 105

Post by Megabonus on Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:50 pm

i swear, ive got them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i put it to you that there are some other 'tragics' out there who seek this info for 'dreamteam' ands supercoach.....

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Post by Megabonus on Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:21 pm

now this is ridiculous.....................this one guy has calculated 'all star' ave for all 2010 draftees

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Post by croz on Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:44 am

Megabonus wrote:now this is ridiculous.....................this one guy has calculated 'all star' ave for all 2010 draftees

Means nothing until they have played against the big boys.

Oh, and Gerry...you may want to change your avatar to reflect the fact that the current name of our league is ASFFL.

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Post by gerry on Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:16 am

croz wrote:
Megabonus wrote:now this is ridiculous.....................this one guy has calculated 'all star' ave for all 2010 draftees

Means nothing until they have played against the big boys.

Oh, and Gerry...you may want to change your avatar to reflect the fact that the current name of our league is ASFFL.

Croz, it's a tribute to the old league.
It's like Brisbane having BBFC on the back of their jumpers...

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Re: Club 105

Post by Megabonus on Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:16 am

yes...croz...but the 2010 draftees are the next generation of 'big boys'...

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Post by Hero on Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:05 am

Good one Croz. You got Gerry there. A lttle bit Slap Dash on Gerry's behalf. Pez i love your work. Keep the bastards honest. And by the way you told me you were going to send me those stats. WHERE ARE THEY?????????????
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Post by gerry on Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:35 am

Hero wrote:Good one Croz. You got Gerry there. A lttle bit Slap Dash on Gerry's behalf. Pez i love your work. Keep the bastards honest. And by the way you told me you were going to send me those stats. WHERE ARE THEY?????????????
Sorry, what was that Lynn Martin?

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Re: Club 105

Post by Macca on Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:04 am

I agree with Croz.
I too have all the stats and anthropometric data from last years draftees, but it means stuff all.
I can tell you that the under 18 coaches have very different goals to AFL players and play accordingly. Furthermore, players will not play the same roles in the AFL so I would suggest using them as a measure at your peril.
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Post by Megabonus on Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:11 am

but there is a reasonably accurate correlation............ Wink

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Post by Macca on Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:16 am

Maybe over 4-5 years yes.
I dunno, I guess I am just a little more educated in the system now and I have a strong opinion otherwise.

That said, a gun is a gun is a gun!
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Post by croz on Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:24 am

Lets see where you take the Raptors in 2015...should be interesting.

I think you have done well already considering where they were in 2008.

Then again, I dont think the coaching back then helped as they should have won a few more games if they had named players that were actually playing!!!

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Post by Megabonus on Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:24 am

I can tell you that the under 18 coaches have very different goals to AFL players and play accordingly.

im assuming you are refering to whether or not a player can make the best decision in a game situation (under time and space pressure)

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Post by Megabonus on Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:25 am

croz....no bullshit....i'd like to think im a little more prepared this time!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Macca on Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:53 am

Megabonus wrote:
I can tell you that the under 18 coaches have very different goals to AFL players and play accordingly.

im assuming you are refering to whether or not a player can make the best decision in a game situation (under time and space pressure)

No.

What I meant was, as an example, flooding (or 'squeezes'/ 'fold backs' / 'presses' whatever you call them!) is banned in the Under 18 games.
Another example...coaches are not directly allowed to 'tag' in championship games.

Due to a lack of midfield brilliance...Scully and Trengove could be tagged from day one!

I stand by the fact that you will probably not see the real Trengove or Scully until they are in their early 20's.

Game is so different, even to say 5 years ago.
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Post by Megabonus on Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:16 am

philisophical question...


my modifying the game at U18 & 16 level is the system failing to expose the players to the demands of AFL and if it is (my belief) isnt it at best delaying or at worst stopping the development of these young players???

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Post by Macca on Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:40 am

Maybe.
I haven't thought about it or discussed it at length, but I believe that the reason they don't allow such tactics is to allow players be seen in their raw state.
I agree that this isn't ideal as it fails to show how players deal with issues such as tags and fold ins.
The real issue is that coaches at underage levels don't have the resources to best educate players about the intricacies of how to 1. apply tags and fold ins or how to deal with both.
At underage level, specifically state level, we train together only 8 times prior to the Australian Championships.
So if Sam Day were to be tagged when we go...it's very hard to have given him the chance to deal with it. Lets not forget it would probably be the first time he would be tagged and the real purpose of the Australian Championships is to showcase his talents for recruiters.

To take this a step further, it is also wort mentioning that the AFL system is far far advanced to the Under 18 competition and as Neil Craig said today "the reality is I need them for two years before I can truly expose them to what WE (crows) need let alone what other teams will do to them".



I agree that it isn't ideal, but nor would double and triple teaming Sam Day just to prove a point.
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Post by Hero on Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:22 am

Dustin Martin wouldn't be on that 105 list of your's would he Macca?
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Post by Macca on Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:27 am

He seems a fair player Andy!

The funny thing about him is that he is apparently dumb as a plank and LOVES to pull angry faces in photo shoots.

Yeah he'd fit...

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Post by Hero on Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:32 am

Geez Bucks looks okay on your avatar. What was Craigy swearing about?
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