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Post by croz Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:54 am

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Post by Macca Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:41 am

I am presuming you guys got my team?
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Post by Jason Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:54 am

Ditto. I always panic when I dont see my team in blue.
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Post by Guest Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:56 am

Sorry guys, was busy getting my daughter to Sydney.
Back now.
Just need to find the Truckers, Heroes and Wolves.


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Post by croz Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:10 pm

I havent received either.
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Post by Jason Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:21 pm

gerry wrote:Sorry guys, was busy getting my daughter to Sydney.
Back now.
Just need to find the Truckers, Heroes and Wolves.

Bec emailed me her team at 1pm today. Not sure why you havent got it, but I will forward it on to you guys. The email I received only had my email address on it??
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Post by Jason Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:39 am

Wait is it too late to say I didnt receive Bec's team either?

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Thank God I used a slider for my AS. Thanks for explaining that to me Macca, it might make the difference between a win and a loss. Now I can only hope that Gibbs goes bananas as he was my slider.
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Post by Macca Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:29 am

Slide on.
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Post by Guest Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:45 am

Unless I hear otherwise, we will use the Trucker's Round 12 team and, apparently, a 20 point deduction from his score!

I have emailed him at both his personal and work emails.
Nothing...
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Post by Macca Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:38 am

I would be VERY surprised if he didn't submit a team.
In fact, I am saying there is no chance of that.
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Post by croz Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:48 am

Neither of us received it. He is usually one of the first to submit each week.

Im sure there is a logical reason for it.
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Post by trucker Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:38 am

I sent my team through in replying to bangers team,
with you and crozz cc'd. I find in strange that it did not go
through.


I understand if i get round 12 team, that is the
rules, but you can check with banger that he received it first thing friday
morning.

we spoke about our teams friday afternoon


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Post by Guest Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:08 am

I fear our hands are tied somewhat:

From 2.2 of the Constitution:



[1] Teams must be nominated on an official ‘team sheet’, via e-mail or to the ASFFL Official Forum.

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[3] You have until 30 minutes prior the commencement of the first AFL game of the week to submit your team (i.e. until 6:40 p.m. CST for a 7:10 p.m. CST start).

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Should you submit your team less than 30 minutes, but prior to the commencement of the first game you shall incur a 10 point deduction from your total score for that week.
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Submitting a team after the commencement of the first game shall incur a 20 point deduction in total points and the application of a default team (previous week’s submission)

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Post by Macca Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:27 am

So did Evan get penalised round one?
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Post by Jason Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:39 am

I will be very interested to see how this pans out. Especially considering what happened to the Mustangs.............
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Post by Macca Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:42 am

Mustangs situation was different Jase (Mustangs failed to check their team sheet before sending)...Evans lack of submission is the precedent.
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Post by Jason Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:55 am

Macca wrote:Mustangs situation was different Jase (Mustangs failed to check their team sheet before sending)...Evans lack of submission is the precedent.

Im not arguing that the Mustang and Truckers case are the same. But correct me if im wrong, I was under the impression a line was drawn in the sand with the Mustangs case. From that point on the constitution was going to be followed. And the constitution is very clear on this situation.
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Post by Macca Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:57 am

Oh yep ok, understand your point now.
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Post by Jason Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:09 am

Here is the thing, I really dont care either way if Shannon gets his team accepted. Especially as the same thing has happened to me this week with Bec's team. I received her team at 1pm on Friday but I had to lodge her team to Gerry and Croz for her as she didnt send it to them. And I am more than happy (even though it looks like I will lose) to have her team accepted.

Im just worried that if we keep allowing this to happen, how will someone react if they are in a fight for a finals spot and someone gets away with this and they end up knocking you out of the finals race. I know I for one will be pissed if it happened to me.

Even though I know I have no say in it, I am happy if we let this slide one more time, as long as we never let it happen again. Under no circumstances.
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Post by Guest Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:15 am

Jason wrote:Here is the thing, I really dont care either way if Shannon gets his team accepted. Especially as the same thing has happened to me this week with Bec's team. I received her team at 1pm on Friday but I had to lodge her team to Gerry and Croz for her as she didnt send it to them. And I am more than happy (even though it looks like I will lose) to have her team accepted.

Im just worried that if we keep allowing this to happen, how will someone react if they are in a fight for a finals spot and someone gets away with this and they end up knocking you out of the finals race. I know I for one will be pissed if it happened to me.

Even though I know I have no say in it, I am happy if we let this slide one more time, as long as we never let it happen again. Under no circumstances.

Ah, shit. I have just realised that Bec IS in the same boat.
She didn't send it to me until Saturday. If this is true for Truck, it is also true for Bec.
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Post by croz Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:27 am

trucker wrote:I sent my team through in replying to bangers team,
with you and crozz cc'd. I find in strange that it did not go
through.


I understand if i get round 12 team, that is the
rules, but you can check with banger that he received it first thing friday
morning.

we spoke about our teams friday afternoon



If Shannon sent it to Banger and CC'd it to me and Gerry, the evidence should still be there if Banger still has the email. Will need to check with him.
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Post by Jason Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:32 am

It wasnt my intention to "dob" Bec in. I am happy to play her submitted team as I received it on time. I would suggest if Banger is also happy then we could just let it slide.

Perhaps a amendment to the constitution is needed for next season. These 2 cases are the same, both coaches lodged their team to the rival coach on time, but for some reason never submitted it to the admin team. So if the rival coach is happy to play the team it is considered an official lodgment.

This of course differs to what Pez did as he never submitted his team to anyone.
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Post by The Independent Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:09 pm

I have no team.
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Post by Guest Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:10 pm

Jason wrote:It wasnt my intention to "dob" Bec in. I am happy to play her submitted team as I received it on time. I would suggest if Banger is also happy then we could just let it slide.

Perhaps a amendment to the constitution is needed for next season. These 2 cases are the same, both coaches lodged their team to the rival coach on time, but for some reason never submitted it to the admin team. So if the rival coach is happy to play the team it is considered an official lodgment.

This of course differs to what Pez did as he never submitted his team to anyone.

My problem with this is as I explained for the Mustangs case.
It puts unnecessary pressure on the opposition coach to 'let it slide'.
Such matters should be out of their hands so there is no question.
Therefore, the teams need to be in the 'hands' of the admin team 30 minutes before the bounce.

I notice that it doesn't actually say that in the Constitution but I suggest that it should.
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Post by Macca Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:13 pm

The Independent wrote:I have no team.
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Post by Jason Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:33 pm

gerry wrote:My problem with this is as I explained for the Mustangs case.
It puts unnecessary pressure on the opposition coach to 'let it slide'.
Such matters should be out of their hands so there is no question.
Therefore, the teams need to be in the 'hands' of the admin team 30 minutes before the bounce.

I notice that it doesn't actually say that in the Constitution but I suggest that it should.

Yup I understand your point and agree with you. I just dont want to be seen as being a prick as my game with Bec looks like it will go down to the wire and if she is penalized it will favor me greatly.

I guess thats why You, Macca and Croz get paid the big bucks to make these decisions for us Very Happy
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Post by trucker Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:07 pm

has a decision been made as to which team i have to follow this week???
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Post by trucker Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:08 pm

is it the round 12 or did banger clear up that he recieved my team on friday for rnd 13??
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Post by Macca Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:31 pm

Shannon, I will make the call.
You submitted your team for rd 13 and thats the team that shall stand.
Please post it here so we can add it.
You did nothing wrong
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Post by Megabonus Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:38 pm

This of course differs to what Pez did as he never submitted his team to anyone.

with all due respect...i did....our email system was down and didnt send anything for 24 hours. because it didnt bounce back, i assumed it had arrived. when i checked, it was sitting in my 'outbox' not in my 'sent items'.
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