Changest to Sub-clause 3.2 Pre-season draft picks

by Guest Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:42 am

Based on discussions in the "Instructions for picking pre-season draft order" post, here are my suggested changes:

Version 1 - pick order depending solely on reverse premiership order.

gerry wrote:3.2 Pre Season Draft Picks

[1] The drawing of draft picks will occur at as part the Annual General Meeting or by the proposed cut-off date to uptake picks. Draft picks shall be placed in 12 sealed & unmarked envelopes and given out at the meeting. .The order for ~~receiving~~ these picks shall be determined by the finishing position of each team at the end of the previous season. The bottom placed team shall have 1st selection, followed by 11th through to reigning premier.~~The choice to take draft picks is made completely by the team owner/s and should not be deemed compulsory until the cut-off date to uptake picks.~~

~~[2] Any team not present at the AGM shall forgo their pick order and receive theirs after all other picks have been received~~.

~~[3]~~ [2] ~~The cut-off time for the trading of Pre-Season Draft Picks shall be determined by the ASFFL Executive.~~. There shall be no trading of Pre-Season Draft Picks.

Version 2 - pick order determined by choice of coaches in reverse premiership order.

gerry wrote:3.2 Pre Season Draft Picks
[1] The drawing of draft picks will occur at as part the Annual General Meeting or by the proposed cut-off date to uptake picks. Draft picks shall be placed in 12 sealed & unmarked envelopes and given out at the meeting. .The order for ~~receiving~~ these picks shall be determined by the finishing position of each team at the end of the previous season. The bottom placed team shall have 1st selection, followed by 11th through to reigning premier. ~~The choice to take draft picks is made completely by the team owner/s and should not be deemed compulsory until the cut-off date to uptake picks.~~ The team placed last in the previous year will also be able choose the actual pick number(1-12). The second last team will then choose the next actual pick number from the picks that are left. This will continue until there is one pick number left and this will be the premier's pick.

~~[2] Any team not present at the AGM shall forgo their pick order and receive theirs after all other picks have been received~~.

~~[3]~~ [2] ~~The cut-off time for the trading of Pre-Season Draft Picks shall be determined by the ASFFL Executive.~~. There shall be no trading of Pre-Season Draft Picks.

Version 3 - pick order determined by choice of coaches in reverse premiership order.

gerry wrote:3.2 Pre Season Draft Picks
[1] The drawing of draft picks will occur at as part the Annual General Meeting or by the proposed cut-off date to uptake picks. Draft picks shall be placed in 12 sealed & unmarked envelopes and given out at the meeting. .The order for ~~receiving~~ these picks shall be determined by the finishing position of each team at the end of the previous season. The bottom placed team shall have 1st selection, followed by 11th through to reigning premier. ~~The choice to take draft picks is made completely by the team owner/s and should not be deemed compulsory until the cut-off date to uptake picks.~~ The team placed last in the previous year will also be able choose the actual pick number(1-12). The second last team will then choose the next actual pick number from the picks that are left. This will continue until there is one pick number left and this will be the premier's pick.

~~[2] Any team not present at the AGM shall forgo their pick order and receive theirs after all other picks have been received~~.

[3] There shall be trading of Pre-Season Draft Picks.The cut-off time for the trading of Pre-Season Draft Picks shall be determined by the ASFFL Executive.

Note: lots of changes here.
Reason:
[1] The AGM is now online and so we need a different system of choosing pick order.
[3] This is to reflect what happened in 2009.

by **croz** Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:19 am

Gerry, can we have a version 3 (Yes, I should have picked this up earlier) that gives the other option of accepting the "The team placed last in the previous year will also be able choose the actual pick number(1-12). The second last team will then choose the next actual pick number from the picks that are left. This will continue until there is one pick number left and this will be the premier's pick." but NOT agreeing with abolishing the trading of daft picks?

by **Macca** Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:37 am

Agreed Croz.

by **croz** Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:00 am

OK, sorry Gerry...I added a 3rd version.

by **Macca** Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:09 am

Well done Croz.
Makes more sense now.

by Guest Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:36 am

That's fine.
Sorry, that "trading picks" clause was a bit of a sleeper.

by **croz** Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:39 am

I think that if we can succesfully trade during the season on this forum, we can trade draft picks.

If coaches choose to snooze over the summer, thats their problem.

Shouldnt the successful teams come from those that work hard at it? And then there is the luck factor.....

by **Macca** Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:40 am

Luck? There is no luck in this game.
I couldn't find any in 2009. Very Happy

But yes, agreed again XB!

by **croz** Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:43 am

there is an even amount of luck spread throughout the league.

Where 1 team gets 'raped'...another team has the sun shine on their arse all year.

I can think of 2 teams that fit this situation!

by **Macca** Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:47 am

What worries me most is that certain teams...er..nah stuff it...Warthogs get all the bloody luck!

by Guest Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:55 am

croz wrote:I think that if we can succesfully trade during the season on this forum, we can trade draft picks.

If coaches choose to snooze over the summer, thats their problem.

Shouldnt the successful teams come from those that work hard at it? And then there is the luck factor.....

I hesitated only because it will have to be done online (rather than in person as has been done in previous years).
I threw your name into the hat as the person who has to deal with all this.
I am not sure how it could be done online without getting messy - but I am willing to have a go!

by **Macca** Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:58 am

How will it get messy?
I cant see any more than 4 blokes using the opportunity...

by Guest Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:08 am

Macca wrote:How will it get messy?
I cant see any more than 4 blokes using the opportunity...

Do you remember the knots that Croz tied himself in when we did it on paper? Changest to Sub-clause 3.2 Pre-season draft picks 29866

Just trying to keep up was a nightmare. It would be much harder to follow online unless Croz has some sort of super-dupa spreadsheet/database system.

by **Macca** Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:10 am

You are talking about Croz here!
He will eat it up.

All we need to do is ensure he can keep up by keeping the thread open to only trades and their confirmation!

by **croz** Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:12 am

Thanks for the affirmation, Macca.

Gerry, you are correct...it may turn into a logistical nightmare, but I am willing to give it a go.

by **Jason** Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:50 am

Thats great news, as trading draft picks adds another dimension to the game. One that encourages people to be more active, as its in their best interests.

by Guest Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:55 am

croz wrote:Thanks for the affirmation, Macca.

Gerry, you are correct...it may turn into a logistical nightmare, but I am willing to give it a go.

Hmmm. I may have underestimated this one...the force is strong in him!

Go Crozzle! Changest to Sub-clause 3.2 Pre-season draft picks 878793

by **Macca** Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:17 am

What we need is strict rules about how trades are formatted/announced in that forum.
What Croz wont want is the associated waffle ("what the fuck were you thinking"..."you got r@p3d!!" ..."I would have offered better").

How do you want it set up Ken Obsby?

by **Jason** Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:38 am

Macca wrote:What we need is strict rules about how trades are formatted/announced in that forum.
What Croz wont want is the associated waffle ("what the fuck were you thinking"..."you got r@p3d!!" ..."I would have offered better").

I agree you want to save the mocking for another thread. But isnt that what happened this season? Sure we had a few people post in the trading threads, but it wasnt many.

by **Macca** Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:00 am

I will not mock.

by **Jason** Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:25 am

Macca wrote:I will not mock.

Sheesh if only you had that attitude last season! Could have saved me a lot of heart ache!

by **Macca** Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:30 am

I learned my lesson.
The only bloke I will mock is the bell end himself.

by **croz** Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:27 pm

Macca, I havent read any of your posts as I cant stop watching your avatar!

NICE

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